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Profit calculator for gold and forex
The formula, instrument by instrument
- Gold (XAU/USD): each lot is 100 ounces, so every $1 of price movement is $100 per lot. Profit = (close − open) × lots × 100 for a buy. 0.05 lots sold at $3,980 and bought back at $3,990 = (3,980 − 3,990) × 5 = −$50.
- Pairs with the dollar second (EUR/USD, GBP/USD, AUD/USD, NZD/USD): profit = price difference × lots × 100,000, already in dollars. 0.20 lots × (1.0850 − 1.0800) × 100,000 = 0.0050 × 20,000 = $100.
- Pairs with the dollar first (USD/JPY, USD/CHF, USD/CAD): the difference is in yen, francs or Canadian dollars, so divide by the close price. 0.50 lots of USD/JPY bought at 150.00 and closed at 149.20: (149.20 − 150.00) × 50,000 = −¥40,000 ÷ 149.20 = −$268.10.
- Cross pairs (EUR/GBP, EUR/JPY, GBP/JPY): the difference is in the second currency; convert it at that currency's dollar rate at the close. 0.10 lots EUR/GBP from 0.8500 to 0.8530 with GBP/USD at 1.3000: 0.0030 × 10,000 = £30 × 1.30 = $39.
The pip value calculator gives the same arithmetic per pip, which is handy for planning a trade before you know the close price.
Worked examples checked by hand
| Trade | Calculation | Result |
|---|---|---|
| Buy 0.10 lot gold 3,950 → 3,980 | (3,980 − 3,950) × 10 oz | +$300 |
| Sell 0.05 lot gold 3,980 → 3,990 | (3,980 − 3,990) × 5 oz | −$50 |
| Buy 0.20 lot EUR/USD 1.0800 → 1.0850 | 0.0050 × 20,000 | +$100 |
| Sell 1.00 lot GBP/USD 1.3000 → 1.2960 | 0.0040 × 100,000 | +$400 |
| Buy 0.50 lot USD/JPY 150.00 → 149.20 | −0.80 × 50,000 = −¥40,000 ÷ 149.20 | −$268.10 |
| Buy 0.10 lot EUR/GBP 0.8500 → 0.8530 (GBP/USD 1.30) | 0.0030 × 10,000 = £30 × 1.30 | +$39 |
What the gross figure leaves out
- Spread. You buy at the ask and sell at the bid, so a trade starts slightly negative. A 1-pip spread on 0.20 lots of EUR/USD costs $2; a $0.30 spread on 0.10 lots of gold costs $3. The calculator uses the prices you type, so type the actual fill prices to include it.
- Commission. Some account types charge per lot per side instead of, or on top of, a wider spread; the amount is in the account specification.
- Swap. A financing charge or credit for every night a position stays open, shown per lot per night on the platform. Over a multi-week trade it can be a noticeable share of the result, especially on buy positions in gold when interest rates are high.
- Currency conversion. If your account is not in dollars, the broker converts the result at its rate, usually with a small margin.
Think in R, not in dollars
The useful way to read a result is as a multiple of what you risked. If you risked $80 (0.10 lots of gold with an $8 stop) and made $300, the trade was +3.75R; the losing trade above was −1R if the stop was $10 on 0.05 lots. Over many trades the question is whether the average R per trade is positive. The break-even win rate for a strategy whose winners are R times its losers is 1 ÷ (1 + R): with 1R targets you need to win more than 50 % of the time, with 2R targets 33.3 %, with 3R targets 25 %. A plan that wins 40 % of trades with 2.5R winners makes 0.40 × 2.5 − 0.60 × 1 = +0.4R per trade on average, before costs; the same plan with 1R winners loses 0.40 − 0.60 = −0.2R per trade. How far gold normally moves, and therefore how far a target can sensibly be, is on the gold trading strategy page.
Profit as a share of the account
A $300 gain is 6 % of a $5,000 account and 0.6 % of a $50,000 account. The risk per trade should be set as a share of the account first (1 % is the usual rule for beginners, see the lot size calculator), and the profit then follows from the R multiple. Doing it the other way round, choosing a dollar profit you want and sizing up until the position could deliver it, is how most accounts end. Most retail CFD accounts lose money: 74 to 89 % according to ESMA's review of national regulators' data (27 March 2018).
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Questions people ask
How do I calculate profit on a gold trade?
Price difference × lots × 100 ounces. Buy 0.10 lot at $3,950, close at $3,980: 30 × 10 = $300. For a sell, reverse the prices: sold at 3,980, bought back at 3,990 = −$10 per ounce = −$50 on 0.05 lots.
How much is 100 pips worth?
100 pips × the pip value. On one lot of EUR/USD ($10 per pip) that is $1,000; on 0.10 lot $100; on 0.01 lot $10. On USD/JPY at 150 one lot is $6.67 per pip, so 100 pips is about $667.
Why is my profit lower than the calculator shows?
Spread, commission and swap. The calculator shows the gross result between the two prices you type. If you type the real fill prices (ask when buying, bid when selling) the spread is already included.
What is a good profit per trade?
There is no fixed number. Judge trades by the R multiple (profit ÷ amount risked) and by whether you followed the plan, not by dollars. A plan that averages +0.3R to +0.5R per trade after costs over hundreds of trades is a good plan.
Can I use this for a euro account?
Yes: divide the dollar result by the EUR/USD price. $300 at 1.0800 is €277.78. Your platform shows the converted figure exactly.
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